Thanks guys but it still doesnt answer the main query…, preachers always asked for wisdom and most of the time they will begin with phrase like “cover me with your blood as i deliver your word”, “use me as a vessel”, “speak to your people”. I can’t help but think of an otherwise good song we sing in church (maybe called Blessed Be The Name Of The Lord) that has this line in it. The result — they plant their feet firmly in the world and slip further into carnality. Been there, done that. The Biggest Lie in the History of Christianity, Mr. Kelly, is that you can get rich off of the Church. I’m convinced that is the reason I first came across Joseph Prince, then Paul with Escape to Reality. Sin is no longer an issue because we must be righteousness conscious. Jesus is high priest now. Tithing proclaims God is alive and taking all our gift like the high priest. The Oxford dictionary: “1. They keep enslaved those whom Jesus loves. Religion had me so confused I had to start seeking elsewhere. There were48 levitical cities,and this was where most of the tithe went.The levites in turn gave a tithe of the tithe.In Malachi,it was not the common people whom God was rebuking,but the priests.The people were doing their part,but the priests not.They were the ones robbing God and offering Him lame animals.The common Israelite was not even allowed into the sanctuary or altar or they would die.Tithing was like our taxation,not our giving.It,like the rest of the law never worked,and of course…we are not under the Mosaic law but under Grace,ALL believers are priests with an inheritance.The way it is commonly taught today,it IS a lie.It troubles me because so many preachers who are so scripturally sound,practicing good hermeneutics and exegesis in all other areas of the Word,remain ignorant concerning tithing.It’s a chosen ignorance. And I also loved the other comments about tithing being connected with the old do it yourself way of relating to God. I am happy to suffer together as the least among these freedom fighters. 7.) “ Our inheritance is in Jesus Christ, the Holy one of Israel. But it’s still mostly us. “Jesus, how dare you claim to have the inside track on truth? Examining ourselves is part of that “walking in the Spirit”, so we wont fulfill the flesh. Insecurities, anxieties, worries that God may strike me with something horrible! How did the Prophet Jesus know that God exists 100٪؟؟? In my church I’ve heard we are infected with sin. Copyright Policy Blessings. Oh wait, no, that's YOUR lie. You are blind and will remain blind until you submit to Gods righteousness. Its ‘because’ you “have believed in Jesus” that you should be ‘dead to sin’ and being thus, you should live unto righteousness! There is a lot more to be said with relation to David and his error. Since we are joint heirs with Christ,we have a great inheritance that we posses little by little every time we partake of the Lords supper. Never had debt, even when I was out of work a year. Either you trust the blood plus nothing or you don’t trust it at all. I suggest you listen to Joseph Prince and/or keep listening to Paul Ellis’ teaching he is right on and makes it plain and simple. Right believing produces Holiness in us, because we are the righteousness of God in Jesus Christ and it is not we, but Christ who lives in us. This is why it’s not about having to give or even not having to give. “Sure, God loves you but he’s also mad at you. Wasting all that time, always troubled in my soul because of fear and doubt. I’m not even sure what “paying the price” would really involve but I’m pretty sure it’s beyond the reach of all but a few spiritual “superstars” and involves a LOT of religious sweat. “The soul that sin’s shall die”, yes and Romans 8:6-13 is appropriate. does nothing to enhance our relationship with God, Our Father. It’s almost unbelievable. John said, in a warning, that he that does (practice doing) righteousness is righteous (1 John 3:7). What then does the passage teach we should examine ourselves for then? We do not have to endure to be saved–we are saved and nothing will change what Jesus has done for us on the Cross. It also says in Malachi that God will rebuke the devourer for us if we tithe. Both times bad things happened when Grace was removed from Faith. As He shouted and ranted angrily across the table insisting that “pew sitters today claim to know Jesus but they don’t act like him.” As I cowered in my chair I asked myself this question: is what you are demonstrating right now what the real Jesus of the Bible looks like? Nazi Propaganda. You have your fruit to holiness. I’m forgiven of my unforgiveness. 11:32. The Rapture is the Blessed Hope and all who hear the message purify themselves. because they cannot afford it after they pay their “tithes”. Do you love your wife? That’s the flip side. It is teaching we should examine ourselves to make sure we are believing in what communion stands for – that Christ redeemed us from divine judgement and from the old do it yourself way if relating to God. The passage nowhere states that we are to examine ourselves for sin in our lives- ( examine ourselves for our performance or behavior) . With Luke 6:38, as a good example; “Give, and it shall be given unto you; good measure, pressed down, and shaken together, and running over, shall men give into your bosom. I came that they might have guilt and have it abundantly. When the Bible clearly says that’s the thief! Posted by 1 year ago. Under Grace, we become generous and want to give. also some of the saddest (though all the lies are sad) are believing that in His Sovereignty God has you right where He wants you all the time – even if it ‘s in misery. Relevance. lie (noun) - an intentionally false statement.” I personally believe that most religious authorities are sincere in their beliefs, however misguided. Additionally, all of this took place before the Cross and the New Covenant was not yet established”. 1 Timothy 6:11-12. Then when lust hath conceived, it brings forth (2) sin: and sin, when it is finished, brings forth (3) death.” “… words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, It is more blessed to give than to receive.” No the biggest last source is the devil telling people that Jesus is not our savior and that Jesus known as this. Love is not a feeling. yes Terry, I was talking about the pastor,I had to read it again to see if I screwed up. If we don’t suffer together with Him we won’t be glorified with him either (Rom. I, like you have tasted of Grace and the favor that is manifested through our humbly submitting to our Lord knowing that we cannot do it ourselves, and resting in His Everlasting Arms. Tom, Then religious Christians come along and give us a list of reasons why we had better not.The apostle Paul does tell us that there are four unworthy ways that we can partake of the Lord’s supper. So much of the comments posted on this site are about what we don’t have to do instead of about what Jesus can do and wants to do for us, in us and through us. I Timothy 5:8 “But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel.” If you recall in the OT regarding tithing, most of the tithes were paid from excess or the spoils of war. It is a word that describes a married couple who choose not to get a divorce but who keep their covenant to remain together until death. and like the other post/comment, how i wish theres a time machine so that this revelation may be given to me many years ago. Learned more truth in children’s church that day! You can trust Jesus that the good work he began in you he will carry on unto completion (Php 1:6). Why do these 3 heavy weights speak thus? We are to encourage one another with the promise of Rapture and the Second Coming. Thanks for the great reminders if why I love and rest in Grace. Religion was initially created as a social compact between man and the universe, to bring psychological comfort in times of hardship. If it’s not Jesus it must be rejected and put over to death on the cross. Not sure if biggest lie or not but it must be up there in the top 2 or 3. I was siting across the table having lunch with a well known evangelical pastor listening to the usual condescension, button holing and berating over my insistence that the real Jesus of the Bible doesn’t threaten, intimidate or guilt His people into making “deeper” commitments to deny themselves and to follow him. All I did was just quote a scripture. God’s only command, in the New Covenant, is that we believe on the Lord Jesus Christ. They keep enslaved those whom Jesus loves. Daryl, I heartily agree, however, those who “feel” good about tithing — their motives come into question. How dare you!’ I’ve found that it’s better to catch the little foxes and bring them to Him instead of trying to ignore them or hide them from Him. If their hearts are not established in Grace, and they don’t understand what Grace is, they will preach from their tradition or the Law (most times not realizing it). But even if I don’t I still have Jesus’ portion. Bestselling author Matthew Kelly believes it is possible and in his latest book, The Biggest Lie, he explains how. It seems that the law is alive and well in many, many churches. The Jews had always suffered persecution and prejudice in Germany before the rise of Nazism. Where sin increases, grace hyper-abounds. Condemnation comes from unrighteousness, One cannot have the righteousness while in the flesh. however they got spiritually civilized by the hebrew israelites. it is your privilege to give the best of what you have. God is certainly able to redeem our suffering, but he doesn’t give us sickness in the first place. your tithe. 3. I should have also mentioned this is also the SAME simple test to evaluate anything WE think, say or do as well: Is this thing I am thinking, saying or doing Jesus? The price is paid – Hallelujah!!!! Why? He was very sound doctrinally apart from the money thing. that even if you fail to follow the law, the grace of God will rise you up and lets you try again. Wait, aren’t preacher asking for wisdom before they preach? Instead of being cleansed by his blood, they are guilty of his blood (1 Cor.11: 29). 2 thessalonians 2 vs 11 and 12 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, … in both 1 John 3:22 and John 15:7 . I’m so glad I’m free from all that stuff now but it upsets me to think that it’s still being taught in some churches. They are without hope. After misconduct got him dismissed from his Anglican post, he started associating with Catholic circles and feigned conversion [source: Butler]. There is a sin leading to death. Unbelievably beautiful. Post was not sent - check your email addresses! It is certainly something to peruse. The Greatest Lie Ever Told takes the reader on a historical voyage, using wit and logic to reveal the evidence of research that no one wanted you to see. A few years ago I couldn’t stand it any longer and challenged him and I was put out of the church. Acts 20:35 The big lie was orchestrated. But, he also say’s in Galatians 5:25, “If we live in the spirit (our positional) let us ‘also’ walk in the Spirit (our practical)” So,” if we walk in the Spirit we won’t fulfill the lust of the flesh”! I’m very big on communion because Jesus said if I don’t chew on his flesh and drink his blood,I have no part in him and he has no part in me. (‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭4‬:‭11-12‬ NASB). 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